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08/07/2022

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What does our government really know about "unidentified aerial phenomena?" On the 75th anniversary of the alleged UFO crash outside of Roswell, New Mexico c...

What do you think about this one?
07/07/2022

What do you think about this one?

Ancient Astronaut Theorists believe that the colossal stone statues found in southern Egypt are transmitters for cosmic forces, in this clip from Season 15, ...

‘Independence Day’ a reality? 1 in 3 people believe they’ve seen a real UFO“Independence Day” has forever tied aliens to...
05/07/2022

‘Independence Day’ a reality? 1 in 3 people believe they’ve seen a real UFO

“Independence Day” has forever tied aliens to the Fourth of July. Now, a new survey has found that many people think they’ve seen an actual UFO flying over their city!

In fact, 37 percent claim they’ve witnessed something “out of the ordinary” taking place in the sky. While 35 percent convinced themselves it was just an optical illusion, nearly half the poll (45%) say they’ve believed in aliens and UFOs for as far back as they can remember. One in four people call themselves “true believers” in extraterrestrial life.

The survey of 2,000 adults in the United Kingdom, commissioned by Beavertown Brewery to celebrate World UFO Day (July 2nd), also found that a third want to believe aliens are out there, despite not having any facts to back it up.

In the absence of a real spacecraft flying over their heads and saying hello, 36 percent say they get their information about aliens and UFOs from documentaries. Another 24 percent say their info comes from the internet and 22 percent rely on family and friends.

Just like the saying on “The X-Files,” 43 percent believe “the truth is out there.” With that in mind, one in three say they actively go looking for UFOs and the same number have come up with their own stories for an unexplainable event they witnessed.

One in four respondents (26%) think their hometown is an alien “hot spot” when it comes to unusual sightings in the sky. In the U.K., London tops the list of UFO hot spots.

Although a strange sighting may make for some interesting coffee talk, not everyone wants to share their experiences with the paranormal. Only three in 10 say they openly talk about UFOs, while four in 10 prefer to keep their theories about aliens to themselves.

The survey, conducted by OnePoll, also found that 48 percent don’t fully trust anything they can’t find an obvious answer for. That’s why 61 percent add there are certain events in history that still baffle them — like the first Moon landing.

Similarly, the Bermuda Triangle (23%) and the Illuminati (17%) top the list of myths and theories people would like to believe are true. Another 26 percent think Nevada’s Area 51 is where the U.S. Air Force secretly investigates and experiments with alien technology.

“There are lots of strange happenings in the sky and people should feel encouraged to share their stories, especially on days like World UFO Day,” a Beavertown spokesperson says in a statement. “There are more believers out there than we think and we want to celebrate them over a pint.”

Source: https://www.studyfinds.org/independence-day-real-ufo/

04/07/2022

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NASA is right to examine UFOsNASA isn’t saying aliens exist. But it is saying, for the first time in almost half a centu...
04/07/2022

NASA is right to examine UFOs

NASA isn’t saying aliens exist. But it is saying, for the first time in almost half a century, that UFOs are worth paying attention to.
The space agency announced last month that a team led by a respected astrophysicist will examine what the government now prefers to call UAPs, or unidentified aerial phenomena — and along the way, what was once dismissed as conspiracy theorizing has earned the more impressive description of “high-risk, high-impact” research. This move will not come as a surprise to those who have followed the Defense Department’s own evolution on the subject: Senior Pentagon officials in May testified in a historic congressional hearing about their own efforts to track sightings of mysterious flying objects. And the director of national intelligence issued a report last year documenting more than 140 of these perplexing events.

The outcome of these probes so far has been deflating: The unidentified phenomena remain mostly unidentified. That’s precisely why NASA’s entrance to the fray, with a modest $100,000 study slated to start this fall and last around nine months, is so welcome. The Defense Department and intelligence community have a clear interest in examining, for instance, whether what look like aircraft are advanced technology from a foreign power, perhaps designed for military use or to collect data from the skies — though there’s no evidence yet to support that hypothesis. The most cartoonish version of alien planets bent on universal domination, of course, would also pose a national security threat. But NASA’s interests are even broader, and so are its capabilities.

NASA can try to answer national security questions, too, bringing scientific rigor to the project of analyzing available data as well as collecting new data. Part of the problem now is that those 140-some fuzzy images and videos offer scant fodder for confident conclusions, but NASA has access to a trove of observations gathered both by looking up from Earth and by looking down at it. The agency has also stressed its desire to ensure the safety of flying. But, kooky as some have made it sound, the search for extraterrestrial life is in itself valuable — whether it takes the shape of NASA’s existing efforts scouring the ocean worlds of Titan and Europa or, further out of the box, hunting for signs of a technological civilization known as “technosignatures.”

The pursuit will obviously prove worthwhile if NASA or anyone else discovers that aliens do indeed exist. But it will also be worthwhile if — and this is much more likely — researchers land on another explanation for UAPs, and even if they land on no explanation at all. As NASA associate administrator Thomas Zurbuchen said in his speech announcing the initiative: “We have the tools and team who can help us improve our understanding of the unknown. That’s the very definition of what science is.”

Source: WashingtonPost

Here are some popular and intriguing UFO sightingsThere are hundreds of cases related to bizarre and beyond-belief sight...
03/07/2022

Here are some popular and intriguing UFO sightings

There are hundreds of cases related to bizarre and beyond-belief sightings of uncommon aerial phenomena. Since ancient times, people have claimed and even recorded that they have seen unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

But on the other hand, there are people, who denounce such claims and call these so-called sightings hoaxes and conspiracies.

Should we believe in these theories? In May 2022, a top US defence official told lawmakers in the first public hearing on UFOs in half a century that an increasing number of unidentified flying objects have been reported in the sky over the past 20 years.

Besides that, in June 2022, NASA announced a new study that will recruit leading scientists to examine unidentified aerial phenomena. The project will begin early this fall and last around nine months, focusing on identifying available data, how to gather more data in future, and how NASA can analyze the findings to try to move the needle on scientific understanding.

If you are intrigued about what is beyond the blue skies, or rather who is beyond the blue skies, take a look at some popular claims about UFO sightings.

Link of Full Article: https://www.wionews.com/photos/unbelievable-but-claimed-to-be-real-here-are-some-popular-and-intriguing-ufo-sightings-493957 -aliens-real-493960

From Roswell Incident to the Kenneth Arnold case, here are some popular and intriguing claims about UFO sightings. These cases will make you think, are we alone in the universe?

02/07/2022

Bill Whitaker reports on the regular sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP, that have spurred a report due to Congress next month."60 Minutes" i...

The Unidentified Flying Object alleged to have been spotted over Bacup just before 10pm on June 22Fresh claim of UFO sig...
02/07/2022

The Unidentified Flying Object alleged to have been spotted over Bacup just before 10pm on June 22

Fresh claim of UFO sighting over Rossendale adds to decades old mystery

Is there anybody out there - and is there life on Mars?

The questions surrounding the existence of Unidentified Flying Objects have always fascinated people. Yet one East Lancashire area reputed as a favourite haunt of UFOs over the years has found itself at the centre of fresh claims of a ‘flying saucer’ sighting this week.

Rossendale is claimed to have attracted many strange lights and goings on over the years, earning a reputation among some for hosting a ‘UFO window’ in the 1970s. The Rossendale Valley was reported to have played host to no less than three UFO sightings between late 1978 and mid 1979, and is itself not far from Todmorden, just over the border in Yorkshire, believed by some to have been the site of an infamous UFO sighting in 1980.

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Now Bacup dad Mike Stoddart, 62, has added to the litany of mysterious goings on in the skies over Rossendale, after he says he saw a mysterious flying saucer like object hovering in the sky over Bacup on June 22. He told Lancs Live: “I saw it on Wednesday evening at just before 10pm. My wife and I came into the kitchen at about a quarter to ten to have a last drink before bed, and I just spotted this orange line in the sky.

"I had a look - I wasn't sure what it was - I had three looks at it, and I got my phone and got a photograph. It was there probably for about a couple of minutes, then it just disappeared, went to the other side of the trees and vanished; it disappeared into thin air.

“From what I’ve heard, somebody saw it at about midnight at Pennine Road in Bacup, but when I zoomed in on the photo, it looked more like an Unidentified Flying Object with a dome at the top. I’ve heard of space objects - but I never realised I would see one in reality. “

Full story: https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/fresh-claim-ufo-sighting-over-24376162?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

With a new claim of a 'flying saucer' over Bacup this week, we take a fresh look at the Rossendale Valley's chequered past of UFO sightings

Recently uncovered 1947 headline from long-defunct newspaper offers "amazing glimpse" at UFO incident in RoswellThe Rosw...
02/07/2022

Recently uncovered 1947 headline from long-defunct newspaper offers "amazing glimpse" at UFO incident in Roswell

The Roswell incident has been one of the most thoroughly researched and debated mysteries in the history of the UFO phenomenon and among the most enduring.

This month, Roswell will mark the 75th anniversary of the alleged 1947 UFO crash with the debate over what occurred far from settled.

That hasn't been for a lack of digging. For decades now, journalists, authors, documentary film crews and others fascinated by the incident have unearthed and publicized countless bits of information and artifacts of that time.

Along the way, they've brought attention to many pieces of Roswell history, such as the July 1947 front pages of the Roswell Daily Record that recorded initial reports of the incident along with a follow-up version of events presented by the military that some now view as one of history's greatest cover-ups.

The intensity of focus placed on the Roswell incident for three-quarters of a century has led some to posit that most contemporaneous records have already been scrutinized. But one piece of local history recently uncovered provides an interesting companion to those iconic 1947 headlines the public has become familiar with - while adding yet more pages to a still-growing historical record.

The Roswell Morning Dispatch, a long-defunct sister newspaper of the Roswell Daily Record, was published in the mornings from 1928-1950. The Dispatch covered the news of the day, and as such, it carried accounts in July 1947 of the unfolding events related to the alleged recovery of a crashed "Flying Disk" outside Roswell, along with the military's explanations for what had occurred.

Its historical headlines were discovered among archived editions of the newspaper, the Daily Record reported.

Of interest to UFO research enthusiasts: The July 9, 1947 headline in the Morning Dispatch read, "Army Debunks Roswell Flying Disk As World Simmers With Excitement," followed by a sub-head bearing a familiar assertion that would help fuel future accusations of a cover-up: "Officers Say Disk Is A Weather Balloon." A sidebar describes then-sheriff George Wilcox fielding calls from media around the world as journalists sought information on what would come to be known as the Roswell incident.

Full story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roswell-ufo-incident-1947-headline-dispatch/

This month, Roswell will mark the 75th anniversary of the alleged 1947 UFO crash with the debate over what occurred far from settled.

Cape Coral man claims to have spotted ‘UFO’CAPE CORAL, Fl. — A mysterious aircraft was spotted in the sky over Cape Cora...
14/06/2021

Cape Coral man claims to have spotted ‘UFO’

CAPE CORAL, Fl. — A mysterious aircraft was spotted in the sky over Cape Coral Tuesday evening.

The man who saw it said at one point, it was hovering right over his car. Jose Carrodegua was on his way home from work when he said he saw the first of two UFO’s. Just five minutes away on Santa Barbara Boulevard, he took pictures of another aircraft.

“It was a black diamond with lights on the side and one red light towards the center, not all the way to the back of the craft,” Carrodegua said.

Carrodegua said he was in awe as it floated overhead with no sound. The fact that the aircraft was silent caught the attention of 24-year veteran Air Force Pilot Kevin Russo.

“We don’t have any silent running aircraft or helicopters that I know of in our world at this time,” said Russo.

The crafts quick maneuvering also raised a red flag about what really was flying over the Cape.

It’s similar to what US Navy pilots saw in recently surfaced videos filmed as recent as 2015. U.S. Intelligence committees are planning to present the recently declassified information about UFO’s to the Senate this month.

“It almost looks like two aerial vehicles in formation doing a maneuver,” Russo said. “Hovering, and then making sharp angle turns, 90 degrees or 180 degrees, we just don’t have that.”

There is one thing, however, tying the crafts here to Earth — red and green lights described by Carrodegua.

“The lights all match what we have in aviation,” said Russo.

All factors considered, the Air Force pilot, who flew in missions like Desert Storm, also was left wondering what was flying in local skies.

“I would go on the 90 percent side, probably 85-90 percent that it’s probably not from here,” said Russo.

The FAA said they did not have any records of any aircraft in the area Tuesday night.

“So is that something we’ve created that people don’t know about yet? Or is that something that’s extraterrestrial that’s visiting our planet?” said Russo.

Source: https://nbc-2.com/news/weird/2021/06/09/cape-coral-man-claims-to-have-spotted-a-ufo/

UFOs in Montana: Redgate area near Deer Lodge a hotspot for paranormal and UFO activityBUTTE — The government has admitt...
13/06/2021

UFOs in Montana: Redgate area near Deer Lodge a hotspot for paranormal and UFO activity

BUTTE — The government has admitted there are strange things flying in the sky scientists can’t explain.

Montanans have been seeing the same things for years. In fact, Montana ranks in the top five for most UFO sightings per capita.

And the area known as Redgate near Deer Lodge is a hotspot.

“It’s just very rich in the paranormal field, like the UFOs, lights in the sky unexplainable things,” said Donald Bromley of Deer Lodge.

Bromley personally experienced paranormal activity when he put up a trail cam in the Redgate area two years ago. The strange, ghost-like figure he captured has brought him national attention from paranormal investigators.

“The first one to think it was a person, but then the more I look at it was just odd, it was out of place and everything just matches the alien persona the bigger bulbous head, you can tell he has no clothes, it’s kind of a transparent being,” said Bromley.

Patrick Cutler is making a film inspired by Redgate and its dark history.

“Basically, there was a guy who had a farm or homestead and he came home one day from work and basically murdered his entire family and painted their gate red with their blood,” said Cutler.

In paranormal and UFO research areas they would classify the Redgate area as a place of high strange. This means a lot of bizarre and unexplainable things seem to happen in this area.

“There have been several people they’re driving around and they see something really bizarre just fly across the sky out of nowhere. I’ve heard stories of people just happen to be up here and out of nowhere their car just stalls out for no reason,” said Cutler.

Montana Tech Professor of Biological Anthropology Dr. Michael Masters of Butte recently wrote a book called Identified Flying Objects. He contends that UFOs could be time machines and its people from our future are coming back to study mankind.

“It’s very similar of what I would do as an anthropologist and had, if I had access to time-travel technology, I would go back and study their anatomy, their culture, their language, take tissue samples,” said Masters.

He adds that it’s a good thing that the government and the mainstream are taking reports of UFOs more seriously.

“Scientists should be at the forefront of this, we should be asking these questions and trying to get answers, it’s the mission of science to do this, so it’s great to see more and more discussion around this and hopefully more individuals in academia and the private sector and the public sector can look into this more seriously as well,” said Masters.

Source: https://www.kxlf.com/news/montana-news/ufos-in-montana-redgate-area-near-deer-lodge-a-hotspot-for-paranormal-and-ufo-activity

'Truth embargo': UFOs are suddenly all the talk in WashingtonAfter 75 years of taboo and ridicule, serious people can fi...
13/06/2021

'Truth embargo': UFOs are suddenly all the talk in Washington

After 75 years of taboo and ridicule, serious people can finally discuss the mysterious flying objects, and even skeptics say that's a good thing.

WASHINGTON — Stephen Bassett and Mick West don’t agree on much. Bassett has devoted much of his adult life to proving UFOs are helmed by aliens, and West has devoted much of his to proving they are not.

But they both agree on one thing: It’s good that, after nearly 75 years of taboo and ridicule going back to Roswell, New Mexico, serious people are finally talking seriously about the unidentified flying objects people see in the skies.

“If you look at the level of public interest, then I think it becomes important to actually look into these things,” said West, a former video game programmer turned UFO debunker. “Right now, there is a lot of suspicion that the government is hiding evidence of UFOs, which is quite understandable because there's this wall of secrecy. It leads to suspicion and distrust of the government, which, as we’ve seen, can be quite dangerous.”

Later this month, the Pentagon is expected to deliver a report to Congress from a task force it established last year to collect information about what officials now call "unexplained aerial phenomena," or UAPs, from across the government after pilots came forward with captivating videos that appear to show objects moving in ways that defy known laws of physics.

While those who dabble in the unknowns of outer space are hoping for alien evidence, many others in government hope the report will settle whether the objects might be spy operations from neighbors on Earth, like the Chinese or Russians.

The highly anticipated report is expected to settle little, finding no evidence of extraterrestrial activity while not ruling it out either, according to officials, but it will jumpstart a long-suppressed conversation and open new possibilities for research and discovery and perhaps defense contracts.

“If you step back and look at the larger context of how we've learned stuff about the larger nature of reality, some of it does come from studying things that might seem ridiculous or unbelievable,” Caleb Scharf, an astronomer who runs the Astrobiology Center at Columbia University.

Suddenly, senators and scientists, the Pentagon and presidents, former CIA directors and NASA officials, Wall Street executives and Silicon Valley investors are starting to talk openly about an issue that would previously be discussed only in whispers, if at all.

“What is true, and I'm actually being serious here, is that there is footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are," former President Barack Obama told late-night TV host James Corden.

The omertà has been broken thanks to a new generation of more professional activists with more compelling evidence, a few key allies in government and the lack of compelling national security justification for maintaining the official silence, which has failed to tamp down interest in UFOs.

In a deeply polarized country where conspiracy theories have ripped apart American politics, belief in a UFO coverup seems relatively quaint and apolitical.

Interest in UFOs waxes and wanes in American culture, but millions have questions and about one-third of Americans think we have been visited by alien spacecraft, according to Gallup.

But those questions have been met with silence or laughter from authorities and the academy, leaving a vacuum that has been filled by conspiracy theorists, hoaxsters and amateur investigators.

West, the skeptic, thinks the recent videos that kicked off the latest UFO craze, including three published by the New York Times and CBS’ “60 Minutes,” can be explained by optical camera effects. But he would like to see the U.S. government thoroughly investigate and explain UFOs.

The government has examined UFOs in the past but often in secret or narrow ways, and the current Pentagon task force is thought to be relatively limited in its mission and resources.

West pointed to models from other countries like Argentina, where an official government agency investigates sightings and publishes its findings, the overwhelming majority of which are traced to unusual weather, human objects like planes or optical effects.

“This is something that we could do here,” West said. “But right now we're left with people like me, who are just enthusiasts.”

John Podesta, a Democratic poobah who has held top jobs in several White Houses, has called on President Joe Biden’s White House to establish a new dedicated office in the White House’s Office of Science and Technology Policy, which would help get the issue out of the shadows of the military and intelligence community.

Podesta, who has harbored an interest in UFOs since at least his days as Bill Clinton’s chief of staff, recently told Politico, “It was kind of career-ending to basically talk about this subject. That has clearly switched, and that's a good thing.”

Believers are unsurprisingly thrilled by the culture shift.

“The ‘truth embargo’ is coming to an end now,” said Bassett, the executive director of Paradigm Research Group and the only registered lobbyist in Washington dedicated to UFO disclosure. “I am elated to finally see this movement achieving its moment.”

Bassett is convinced the government is covering up proof of extraterrestrial life and that everything happening now is elaborate political theater to make that information public in the least disruptive way possible — a view, of course, not supported by evidence or most experts.

“This is the most profound event in human history that's about to be taking place,” he said.

Full story at : https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/truth-embargo-ufos-are-suddenly-all-talk-washington-n1270560

US UFO-report boldly goes where no one has gone beforeA task force will share data it collected on unusual flight phenom...
12/06/2021

US UFO-report boldly goes where no one has gone before

A task force will share data it collected on unusual flight phenomena with Congress, as UFO enthusiasts rejoice. But a German expert with decades of research under his belt doesn't believe aliens have ever been to Earth.

If you have an interest in UFOs (unidentified flying objects, for the uninitiated) and have always wondered what exactly the US government and intelligence services know about them, June may be a big month for you. The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) Task Force, a group within the US Department of Defense (DOD), is set to present an unclassified report to Congress this month about what knowledge Pentagon officials have gathered on UAPs and how they are dealing with the data they have managed to collect.

UAPs is the term military officials and researchers who don't want to be associated with the expression UFO use when talking about objects in the sky that fly without any visible form of propulsion, in patterns that defy our knowledge of physics. So yes: The US Department of Defense will tell US Representatives and Senators what they have learned about unidentified flying objects in US airspace.

And the public is going to hear all about it (though there could be a delay between the presentation in Congress and the release of the full report to the general public). No hushed conversations on secret military sites, which conspiracy theorists are sure have been going on since a UFO purportedly crashed in Roswell, New Mexico, in the summer of 1947, but a straightforward report.
'Documented evidence collected by the military'

Avi Loeb, professor of science at Harvard University and Director of the Institute for Theory and Computation within the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told DW what makes this such a momentous occasion.

"This new report is different from past discussions on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in that it involved documented evidence collected by military personnel based on detection by multiple instruments (radar, infrared cameras, optical cameras)," Loeb wrote in an email.

The information presented in the report is likely to indicate "the possible existence of objects which behave in ways that cannot be explained by the technologies we possess."
95% of cases have a worldly explanation

A Gallup poll from 2019 showed that one third of US-American adults believed that at least in some cases, UFO sightings involved actual alien spaceships. Hans-Werner Peiniger became interested in UFOs at 15 and has researched them for almost 50 years now. The head of the Society for Research into the UFO Phenomenon (GEP) in Germany says that the overwhelming majority of sightings, however, have natural or man-made explanations.

"Since 1972, we've looked into roughly 4,500 sightings" reported to the GEP by witnesses, Peiniger told DW. "There are only around 5% that we couldn't find any comprehensible explanation for."

The rest, Peiniger says, are often helium balloons of the kind you see on fairs, insects in-flight that can appear like a flying saucer in photos, weather phenomena or satellites. As for the other 5%: "Maybe they're natural phenomena that we simply cannot explain yet."

Why is the report coming now?

It's no coincidence that Congress members will get more info on UAPs this month. A detailed report from the UAP Task Force was a requirement in the $2.3 billion (€1.8 billion) spending package that Congress passed in December 2020. Within six months, the legislation stipulated, the Department of Defense and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence would have to present "detailed analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena data and intelligence."

Democrats and Republicans requesting a report about unidentified flying objects, a topic that until not too long ago was the purview of sci-fi movie fans, conspiracy theorists and alien enthusiasts, shows that the possibility of extraterrestrial intelligence is a lot less absurd to high-level US officials now than it used to be.

The move came at the end of a year with several significant UAP developments. In April 2020, the DOD officially released three videos taken by Navy pilots that had been leaked years earlier. The recordings showed objects whizzing across the sky in a way that was strange enough to attract the pilots' attention.

The DOD confirmed the videos' authenticity years after UFO enthusiasts had already analyzed every last second of the footage online "in order to clear up any misconceptions by the public on whether or not the footage that has been circulating was real, or whether or not there is more to the videos," according to a Pentagon press release. "The aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as 'unidentified.'"

No commonalities among reported UFOs

Less than four months later, the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force was formed - and now its researchers will present their findings to Congress. Harvard professor Loeb, who earlier this year published the book "Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth," says the Navy re-releasing old videos is not enough, and that officials should actively look for evidence now.

"Instead of declassifying documents that reflect … old technologies used by witnesses with no scientific expertise, it would be far better to deploy state-of-the-art recording devices… at the sites where the reports came from, and search for unusual signals," Loeb wrote in his email to DW.

Peiniger says after the many cases he's researched, he is highly skeptical that any UAP sightings are alien spacecraft.

"If there really was extraterrestrial intelligence that came to visit us, there should've been some things their UFOs had in common," he pointed out — the alleged spacecrafts' shape or flight patterns for example. "But we didn't find anything like that in the cases we looked into."

"I don't want to rule it out completely," Peiniger said, "but I am assuming that we are not currently being visited by extra-terrestrials."

Source: https://www.dw.com/en/us-ufo-report-boldly-goes-where-no-one-has-gone-before/a-57749448

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